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Shoe Widths: FAQ from Blog

Trying to understand running shoe width differences can be mystifying. To help you out, below has answered the shoe width questions most frequently asked by customers.

How Much Wider is a ‘Wide’ Shoe?
The actual width of a shoe will vary a bit from brand to brand and shoe to shoe. For instance, one of our RW staffers can wear most New Balance shoes in a standard width, but finds even the wide width of most Saucony shoes to be a bit snug. When a shoe increases by a width (for instance, from D to 2E), it increases by about 10 millimeters.

How do I know if I might need a wider shoe?

If you’re getting blisters on the sides of your forefoot, if your foot hangs over the edge of your shoe’s platform, or if the shoe is cutting off circulation to your toes, then you might need a wide or extra wide shoe.

How do I figure out which width I need?

The most accurate shoe fit, including width fit, is measured using a tool called a Brannock Device(shown above). Most running retail stores will use this tool to determine the size and width shoe that will work best for you. If you don’t have access to a Brannock Device, then you can gauge which width you need by the fit of a standard width running shoe.

If the upper of a standard width running shoe is too snug, but the platform feels good, then you probably need a wide shoe. If your foot is spilling over the platform of a standard width running shoe, then you likely need an extra wide shoe. If the upper of the shoe feels too roomy, then you might try a narrow shoe.

What’s a “regular” width shoe?

For women, the standard width is “B,” and for men the standard width is “D.”

What part of the shoe is wide in a wide shoe?

In most wide shoes, the upper material around the forefoot is about 10 millimeters wider than the upper of a standard width shoe, while the shoe’s platform does not change. In an extra wide shoe, the upper of the shoe is wider than a standard width shoe, and the platform is also about 20 millimeters wider than a standard width shoe.

What part of the shoe is narrow in a narrow shoe?

In most narrow shoes, the upper material in the forefoot is about 10 millimeters narrower than a standard width shoe, while the platform does not change. In an extra narrow shoe, the forefoot area is narrower than a standard width shoe, and the platform is about 20 millimeters narrower than a standard width shoe.

Which widths are available in Men’s running shoes?

Narrow: B
Standard: D
Wide: 2E
Extra Wide: 4E

Which widths are available in Women’s running shoes?

Narrow: 2A
Standard: B
Wide: D
Extra Wide: 2E

If a woman needs a D width shoe, can she buy a Men’s D width shoe?

Yes. A woman’s wide shoe (width D) is the same width in the upper as a Men’s standard shoe (width D), though note that in most cases the Women’s shoe will be built on a B width platform, while the Men’s shoe is built on a D width. Also, the upper dimensions of the Women’s shoe may be slightly different than those of the Men’s shoe, if the manufacturer uses a gender-specific fit. If a woman is buying a Men’s shoe, she should size down 1.5 sizes from her typical shoe size to figure out her Men’s shoe size. For example, if she wears a size 9 in Women’s, she would wear a size 7.5 in Men’s.

How do I find shoes available in wide widths on your website?

First, click on the “Search Shoes” Product Finder on the right-hand side of our homepage. Then, select either the Beginning or Experienced shoe finder. In both of these finders, you can search for narrow, medium, wide, or extra wide shoes. Shoes available in widths also will display “Widths Available” beneath the thumbnail picture of the shoe on category page.

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To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub

Heard it from Mikey Miss on 97.5 The Fanatic yesterday. Missanelli definitely knows his stuff. It is from the famous play Hamlet.

Had to find the original. Here you go.

To be, or not to be, that is the question


Is it better to live or to die?


To be or not to be is probably the best-known line from all drama or literature. Certainly, if anyone is asked to quote a line of Shakespeare this is the one that first comes to mind for most people. It is, of course, from Shakespeare’s play Hamlet, 1602 (Shakespeare’s actual title is - The tragedie of Hamlet, prince of Denmarke):

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, ’tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish’d. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there’s the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law’s delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover’d country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.–Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember’d.

What Hamlet is musing on is the comparison between the pain of life, which he sees as inevitable (the sea of troubles – the slings and arrows – the heart-ache – the thousand natural shocks) and the fear of the uncertainty of death and of possible damnation of suicide.

Hamlet’s dilemma is that although he is dissatisfied with life and lists its many torments, he is unsure what death may bring (the dread of something after death). He can’t be sure what death has in store; it may be sleep but in perchance to dream he is speculating that it is perhaps an experience worse than life. Death is called the undiscover’d country from which no traveller returns. In saying that Hamlet is acknowledging that, not only does each living person discover death for themselves, as no one can return from it to describe it, but also that suicide os a one-way ticket. If you get the judgment call wrong, there’s no way back.

The whole speech is tinged with the Christian prohibition of suicide, although it isn’t mentioned explicitly. The dread of something after death would have been well understood by a Tudor audience to mean the fires of Hell.

The speech is a subtle and profound examining of what is more crudely expressed in the phrase out of the frying pan into the fire. – in essence ‘life is bad, but death might be worse’.

See other phrases and sayings from Shakespeare.

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(转载) 我眼中的四大、咨询、投行以及PE行业

最近看到一篇文章,觉得很不错,把它直接转载过来,以后有志于从事这些行业的 可以看一下,就当是开眼界啦~~



拿我较为熟悉的PWC举例来说,它下面有不同的部门,比如audit,tax, advisory等。各个部门下面还分组,比如audit下面有5个组,客户所处的行业各不相同。advisory分不同的function,比如 Performance Imporvement(PI),这个类似financial consulting;Technical Services(TS),主要是帮PE或者其他的客户做financial DD的;strategy group,做商业咨询服务的,但是很小,人不多,毕竟不是corebuz。

四大的发展路径基本是一致的:2年associate,3年Sr. asso;过了CPA的并且表现不是太差的话入职五年后就可以升manager了(范坚强这样的也能升到mgr,我也对四大的mgr没有啥期待了)。 mgr上面是sr.mgr,然后就是Par了。从mgr到srmgr到par没有固定的期限,但是一般来说能在四大坚持下来个10年左右也都能成par 了。

四大的薪水:网上那个很经典的说每年加薪30%的那个帖子已经不适用现在了。现在第一年到第二年的加薪有个300-500已经不错了。第二年到第三年(也就是升sr asso)的时候,有三档薪水,最高的大概是9K3,号称top pay,一个组里面大概也就几个人能拿到toppay,最低的一档大概7K多点,具体不清楚,雁渡寒潭BBS上可以问问或者找一下。OT要看项目,有的项目可以每天cha2个小时的OT,有的就一点都没有。

关于性价比的问题:毫无疑问,降薪并且没有OT的四大的性价比之低已经可以和民工相比较了。这也算是一个中国特色吧。在国外,作为 professionalservices provider,四大的薪水还是蛮高的。有的小朋友是抱着快速成长的决心去的,但是我可以说的是,你在四大的成长也是一个循序渐进的过程,快速吗?我不好说,但是我个人觉得一般般。当然,我不是财务出身的,这种话不好乱说,但是第一年的小朋友做什么,第二年的做什么,sr做什么已经模式化了,你不要期望一口能吃成个胖子。当然,有些小朋友抱着要兢兢业业的把审计这一行做好的信念来的,并且极其的能吃苦,那么他会在四大做的很开心的。





前三大毫无疑问是McKinsey, BCG和Bain & Co。属于这个区间的还有Monitor,Booz & co, RB, ATK, ADL等等。这些公司主要的业务有:帮助客户指定企业级战略(包括拓展现有业务的市场份额或者利润率,进入新兴市场或者提供新产品新服务,进行兼并、收购、出售、IPO等)以及帮助PE等其他客户进行市场的尽职调查等等。

以bain & co举例来说,它的业务基本可以分为三种(各个公司的叫法不同):1,case,也就是战略咨询的本质;2,MarketDD,这个基本就是帮助PE做的尽职调查;3,CD,Customer development,也就是公司自己出钱做的对某个市场或者行业的研究,用以吸引客户向其购买CASE服务。

发展路径:还是以bain &co举例吧(没办法,对它太熟悉了),第一年和第二年是associate consultant(AC),第三年是sr. AC。一般来说三年后就出去读MBA了。MBA毕业回来之后是consultant,2年consultant之后升mgr,mgr再升par基本就没定数了,如果一直做的话,3-4年也许就能升了吧。如果sr.AC不去读MBA的话,也能硬升到consultant,但是再升mgr就很困难了。

MBA的要求:一般来说,美国前10和欧洲前5的Bschool的MBA都有比较大的希望进入top C firm,但是这个要求近几年会不会改变不是太好说。


工作内容:因为最后给客户的工作结果就是一套PPT,所以PPT的内容就是工作的全部。除了表述性或者总结性的文字之外,内容最多的就是数据和信息。所以各种方法找数据,建立数学模型去估计数字等等就是刚进入公司的新人的事情。随着时间的推进,做的东西的自由度越来越高,眼境越来越从细节提升到构架,需要思考的东西就越来越多,比如分析的角度,如何breakdown一个real buz case等。

进入的建议:如果你非常的有energy,非常的talktive,英语流利,并且能够接受比较大的压力,那么咨询就很适合你。上面的条件是必需条件,还有很多其他的方面,比如一个比较好的学校,一个比较好的学习成绩,有过社团领导人的经历等等。因为这些公司不仅仅是在招干活的人。能干活的人太多太多了。它其实也在初选MBAcandidates。但是长期来看,由于professional services的进入壁垒不高,所以不排除这个行业走下坡路的可能性。



另外一方面,我老婆在四大升了一级,到了第二年,做的东西有所不同;经过一段时间corporate的工作经历,也和我们公司的global finance trainee聊了一下corporate finance部门的发展路径,发现了四大和finance MT的主要区别和优劣势,可以和大家分享一下:


Corporate finance trainee:很多公司都有类似的项目,比如GE和ABB。以ABB为例,global finance trainee可以在国内和国外进行轮岗,同时轮岗的岗位有treasury, controlling,finance analysis, M&A等等。优势显而易见,国外轮岗和不同的岗位选择,同时工作轻松。但是劣势也是存在的,就是看的始终是一家公司,视野不够宽泛。



Investment Bank,投资银行,国内的普遍称为券商。大号的华尔街投行(当然现在那些大号的欧洲投行也纳入其中了)有个俗称叫做bulge bracket,包括大摩, 高盛,摩根大通, 美银美林, 德意志银行,瑞银, 瑞信, 花旗投行部,汇丰投行部等等,小号的投行们统称叫做boutique。就不一一列举了






升职道路:analyst(2-3年)- associate (2-3年) – VP (若干年)- ED(0-若干年,有的投行没有ED这个职位)- MD ;一般做3年analyst的很多人选择读MBA去了,跳出IBD的人大部分的去向都是VC/PE fund。





升职道路:不知,大概和IBD差不多。跳出S&T的一般去向都是买方fund,hedge fund居多。




升职道路:research assistant(有的投行没有这个职位) – research associate(对应IBD的analyst level) – research analyst(同样的analyst,在投行里面级别划分的时候可能是associate,有可能是VP,甚至是MD。首席经济学家他们写报告的时候也就是注明是analyst而已)


Private Banking





现在综合性的投行也有自己的买方部门,比如自有资金投资部(也叫直接投资部)和自己的private fund。后面如果有机会讲fund的话会详细说一下的。




外来的和尚,就是那些bulge bracket和boutique。他们拥有高端的人才和关系网络。给出的pay基本都是global pay。第一年的非后台部门的entry-level的薪水基本在60W的base这个水平,无论是HK还是大陆。当然现在也有个趋势是local pay。前几天在水木的投行版看到UBS在大陆招的quantanalyst,base也就税后1W。这个也让人很是唏嘘。但是在大陆还是有个问题就是大部分的外资投行受到牌照的限制,不能从事一级和二级市场的业务。所以现在外资投行在大陆做的大部分都是国内企业在HK或者其他国家上市的项目,以及针对这些类型的上市公司撰写英文版的研究报告(前几天看到有篇新闻写UBS开始写中文报告了,但是上面对UBS的大陆研究团队也是毁誉参半)。现在有A股牌照的好像只有高盛高华,UBSS,瑞信和DB。其中瑞信还没有A股的二级牌照。大摩现在借壳华鑫应该就能够拥有全牌照了。具体情况没有研究,有业内人士来讨论下。

应届想进入外资投行,基本的要求是四大名校或者北美香港欧洲名校,GPA死高,英语熟练的烂掉,投行实习经历,海外交流。如果不是金融相关专业的至少要自学过CFA level1。这些是基本要求。然后去IBD的人要求是非常的social和有leadership,要一眼看去就是个成功人士;去S&T的人要求很精明和时刻充满精力,能煲长时间的电话粥。去research的人一般是要能写一些东西和做一些模型;去private banking的人一般最好自己能拉来一些客户,比如X二代,如果不能的话,那就要及其成熟和有魅力,这样才能让那些有钱人愿意和你交流。










PE, private equity。之所以private,是因为它可以不用公开它的财报和投资项目。这个是相对于公募基金来说的。PE到底能不能被简称为私募呢?这个很难说,因为国内对私募有两个理解,一个是PE,也就是私募股权基金,基本是在公司级别进行投资活动的;一个是私募股票基金,是通过募集资金在A股二级市场进行股票交易的基金。股民们说的私募一般指的是后者,企业家和投资家说的私募一般指前者。我在这部分说的PE也是前者。




PE一般的投资方式是,通过MD和LP(有限合伙人)们发掘有前景的行业和公司,之后把这些公司名单交给下面的associate。这些 associate会对这些公司做一个初步了解,之后再请咨询公司做market DD(due diligence,尽职调查),四大做financialDD(这就是四大的advisory部门的一项比较重要的工作), 律所做legal DD,一些tech consulting firm做technial DD(从技术角度看目标公司的发展前景)。做完大量的DD后,还要通过和公司管理层的访谈去了解他们的领导力,运营理念和未来成长潜力。当然最后还有很重要的一步是对目标公司进行估值,估值完了就是和目标公司谈判了。谈完了然后PE内部开个会,决定收购了就出钱买了。当然,大量的项目都在上面的那些步骤中死掉了(经典的凯雷收购徐工案)


PE赚钱的方式叫做“退出”,也就是将之前投资的公司卖掉或者让它上市(或者再次上市)。一般来说PE的单个项目的投资年限是2-4年,在这2-4 年中会帮助或者看着这个公司成为它所处的行业当中的翘楚(或者前几名),然后把它再卖给它的竞争对手,或者其他的PE,或者让它上市,然后通过二级市场退出。一般PE赚钱的倍数都在2倍以上,在以前市场好的时候,10倍的倍数也屡见不鲜。当然现在市场竞争激烈,PE多而好项目少的情况下,倍数降低也是情理之中。

随着PE的发展(中国特色的发展),PE多了一个赚快钱的渠道,就是投资即将上市的公司,然后在其上市后锁定期过了之后迅速套现。这就是大名鼎鼎的 pre-IPO项目。大家也许知道,国内很多本土的人民币PE基金都是“背影深厚”的。各路X二代神仙发现了pre-IPO能带来的高额回报后,都纷纷将魔爪伸向这些待上市公司。很多PE能够在IPO一年前,甚至IPO一个月前强势进入目标公司,然后待其上市后套现离场。这里只是指明现在国内PE的一个发展现状,虽然是个不健康的现状。






先说PE的pay吧,国内的各色新晋PE不清楚,但是传统的美国那边过来的PE,比如黑石,凯雷,KKR,贝恩资本,包括CDH和淡马锡,这些给的 pay都很高,entry level RMB100W的base应该有的(大陆)。成功退出的项目还有项目奖金。life style来说,一般都是比banking稍微轻松一些,比top consulting累一些。


如何进:一般最大的几个PE都是招2-3年TOP consulting和IB工作经验的人。稍小的PE也会选择四大advisory或者audit的人,但是几乎所有的PE都不招应届生(今年淡马锡招应届生了,但不知道pay如何)。所以进PE一般靠朋友推荐为主,也有的是靠猎头推荐。很少有大PE挂出来招人的信息的。


想趁着这个机会把hedge fund说一下,但是确实我对HF了解很少。国内的基金公司其实也能算作hedge fund,只是除了股指期货和融资融券之外没有hedge的手段。比较成熟的hedge fund据说现在开始在HK集结了,包括索罗斯的量子基金。

概况的说,PE和VC投资的是他们看多的公司和股票,属于单边投资,包括伯克希尔公司在内也可以算作PE这边的(但是它不是个PE,因为伯克希尔哈撒韦公司是个上市公司);hedge fund属于双边投资。所以真正在金融市场兴风作浪的,还是HF们。



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Hidden Job Market Secrets: The Right Strategy Makes Looking for a New Job Easy

Hidden Job Market Secrets: The Right Strategy Makes Looking for a New Job Easy
By Debra Feldman, JobWhiz, Executive Talent Agent

Candidates are rarely job-hunting experts. Even if you have the qualifications for the job you want, you must use the best strategy for success in today’s highly competitive job market. Networking purposefully accelerates campaign progress.

If you follow career industry trends, you know that only a small proportion, about 15% of jobs, are advertised. Today, the vast majority of positions are filled through personal contacts. Put simply, access to employment opportuntiies depends on connections to learn about potential leads to newly created roles, organizational restructurings, new needs, unexpected vacancies and authorized hiring.

Unadvertised jobs are often referred to as the hidden job market. The unadvertised or hidden job market is, except for that 15% mentioned above, where the jobs are. You are more likely to find a job using networking as your primary job search method than if you emphasize quantity over quality submitting numerous resumes and applications. Chances are against landing using the job boards, working with external recruiters, combing corporate websites, searching on classified and professional listings, online specialty and general job sites, attending career fairs, etc. It is not just what you know or who you know, but who knows you, appreciates your potential contribution and has the authority to hire you. You must make more strategic contacts. That is connect with individuals who can appreciate your potential to contribute to their success by increasing profits, cutting costs or improving process AND who can hire you or recommend you to hiring authorities.

In a private email, CareerXRoads Ninth Annual Sources of Hire Study author, Gerry Crispin, quotes a startling finding about the critical role that inside contacts play in the recruting process, “ An employee [connection produces] a 50 times greater chance of being hired. That’s right 50!” That fact alone is sufficient to justify job searchers focus should be on networking with purpose, not on applying. The fastest job search process is to Network Purposefully™ . Follow the steps below to execute a swift, successful job search campaign using these best practices.

Focus is number one. Once you start networking within a specific niche, the world gets smaller, your your name gets passed around and starts to generate good buzz about you which builds trust and increases your credibility, both competitive advantages.

Choose an industry sector and identify target companies.

Research each employer and describe strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats.

For each employer show how you can address these challenges and solve their problems based on your experience, knowledge, skills, training, etc. Present yourself as the no risk, first choice, go-to expert who is a perfect fit.

Within each target company, find the appropriate hiring decision maker.

Connect with the hiring authority directly through cold calling, an introduction arranged by a mutual contact, connect virtually via social media, meet in person, etc.

Succinctly present your interest and demonstrate your potential value to their team.

Be patient, polite and persistent. You are not the employer’s first priority. It is your responsibility to capture their attention and promote a positive relationship.

Follow up continuously to stay on the decision maker’s radar so that you will be recalled in the future for an appropriate opportunity if there is not an immediate assignment.

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You can make money without doing evil – from Google’s Ten things

from Google’s Ten things


You can make money without doing evil.

Google is a business. The revenue we generate is derived from offering search technology to companies and from the sale of advertising displayed on our site and on other sites across the web. Hundreds of thousands of advertisers worldwide use AdWords to promote their products; hundreds of thousands of publishers take advantage of our AdSense program to deliver ads relevant to their site content. To ensure that we’re ultimately serving all our users (whether they are advertisers or not), we have a set of guiding principles for our advertising programs and practices:

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Being Steve Jobs’ Boss

Jobs and Sculley in New York City, 1984 DIANA WALKER/CONTOUR/GETTY IMAGES

An interesting article before my mid-term Dubinsky case on Apple in 1985
Confessions of the last man to manage the singular inventor

“The whole thing was to create the perception that Pepsi/Apple was No. 1 because you couldn’t be No. 1 unless you thought like No. 1. You had to appear like No. 1.”


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Applying to NYU Langone

Applying to NYU Langone: (originally posted by Tenore from

The past four months of my life have been filled with the trials and tortures that come with applying to a competitive business school. My app had question marks in it, and all the details of my life were not totally perfect, but I believed I had what it took to go to a top school… Fortunately On June 25th NYU agreed with me.

For those applying to NYU Stern’s Langone program, I put together a little guide of what to expect. This is based on what I learned from my own experience, and from the experiences of other gmat clubbers. Hopefully this will help reduce the anxiety for you, and give you an idea of what’s ahead.


So here’s the deal, it’s not really rolling in the normal sense. You can submit your application before the deadline, but they will NOT be reviewed until after the deadline. Furthermore, they will not necessarily be reviewed in a first in first out manner. Finally, the deadline is not usually enforced, and NYU usually takes apps months after the official cutoff date.

NYU has a page where you can get the current status of your application. You’ll get a password for this at around the application deadline date. Your mental health will be best if you can resist the urge to check your status every few minutes. OCD can set in quickly.
Important note: If you don’t have a password 10 days or so after the deadline, call the adcom.

NYU will email you if you’re missing anything, and the missing items NYU needs will show up on the status check page. NYU is very fast at receiving and acknowledging the receipt of new material. When the new material is received, it shows up on the status check site (no email.)
Also, if NYU is asking you for stuff, it usually means your file is being reviewed. Many people receive notification within 2 weeks of sending the info (me included).

The following items will be needed:

= Official undergrad transcript with degree conferral.
= If you had transfer credits applied to your undergrad degree, then you’ll have to include the transcripts for those as well.
= NYU will want a copy of the official degree for international students
= 2 Letters of Rec.
= Essay 3 submission (if you indicated you’re sending something)

Important note: Sometimes you will get notification of a missing item late in the process, and if you cannot get it to them quickly, you can hurt your chances of being admitted.

When a decision has been made, you’ll get an email saying, “There has been an update to the status of your application to the NYU Stern MBA program.” If you go to the status check page, you’ll see the decision (Accept, Interview, Waitlist, Decline.) The official mailed package will follow in about 2 days.
Notifications can happen as soon as a week after the app deadline for re-apps and exceptionals, but most people will hear 1 – 2 months out. Most notifications come on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, and they come in bulk. Notifications can have also come Friday and Monday, but almost never come on Thursday.
The wait is awful, but you’re not alone.

Once you’re admitted, you have 2 weeks to pay NYU a $1000 deposit. You can pay this right away via the new student tour, or you can wait until you receive the official acceptance letter in the mail.
When NYU has your deposit, your status check screen will say the following: “We are in receipt of your Enrollment Deposit. Please be sure to initiate the verification process outlined in your admission letter. Please allow up to 5 business days for your Kroll login to be activated. As a new student…”

When you get in and pay your deposit your name will be placed on the new student database, and you’ll be given access to view it (it’s pretty cool). If you copy / past the database in to excel, you can get a count of how many people were admitted so far (it’s polite to post on the GMAT club board with admit count updates whenever you can). There is a delay of a few days between posting your deposit and appearing on the database. Also, the database is usually updated in the mid afternoon, and does not get updated every day.

After you get in, NYU will have an outside agency (Kroll) to investigate you (and they will make you pay for this privilege). While no one knows the extent of the background check, they will definitely confirm employment history (including salaries) and degree conferrals. Furthermore, they might call your referrers, verify your certifications and check criminal records. Military guys will need to provide DD214s. My credit reports don’t show a soft inquiry from Kroll or NYU, so I doubt they are checking credit.
The Kroll verification can take a long time. Do yourself and your nerves a favor and double check everything on your application before you send it. Have your paustubs / w2’s and degrees on hand, just in case. It will save you a lot of anxiety. Oh, and don’t lie on your app, not even a little bit. It’s one thing to be rejected on the truth; it’s another thing entirely to be rejected on a lie.

Important note: It’s a very common thing to have an ‘official title’ and an actual title that are different. Kroll knows this. As long as your employer will say the titles are equivalent, there’s nothing to worry about.

When Kroll is done, they send the info on you to NYU. NYU will review it, and if it’s satisfactory, you’ll get an email that says the following: “Welcome to the NYU Stern Langone Program! We have received your enrollment deposit and your verification process has been satisfactorily completed. We are thrilled that you are part of our community.”

If you made the waitlist, then NYU clearly likes something about you, but…

1) Something in your application red flags you. For instance, if you live far away and don’t have a relocation plan in place, they will often waitlist you. NYU wants you to have a reasonably stable life and a good, reasonably stable job.
2) You were qualified for the program in every way, but lost out in the competition with other applicants. This usually happens in bulk near the notification deadline. Every cycle about 2 or 3 people like this on the gmat club get converted to admits, but a lot will be dinged. Reapplication success is usually high for this group, especially if they show a real effort to improve themselves (improve the gmat, take a challenging class, lead something…)

NYU Stern MBA Admissions [] (Notifications)
NYU Stern MBA Admissions [] (Status password and missing info messages)


I was quickly admitted into Fordham, and to be honest, it made the process of waiting for NYU a little easier. There’s something about having an admit in your back pocket…

Kellogg and U Chicago: Awesome b-schools with awesome part time programs. People will fly-in each weekend for the Saturday program. As far as prestige, both of these are equivalent to NYU in every way.

Fordham – It’s quite a step down from NYU, but it is generally considered the #2 part time MBA program in NY (though Baruch competes for this honor). The university has a great name and the program is reasonably competitive. It should be ranked, but it isn’t (blame the school, probably). They have a class of 2000+ and charge near what NYU is charging, so I don’t think they care.

Baruch – For finance guys, this may be a great backup. It’s well respected and has plenty of NY area recruiters. If you plan to move away from NY, then the Baruch name may lose some value to you. It’s very affordable.

U-Conn: Has a ranked full time program, which adds to the prestige of the part time one. It seems like a good atmosphere for those within reach of Connecticut.

Rutgers: Also has a ranked full time program and may be a great backup choice for NJ people.

Pace: Not as well regarded as the above, but it’s a good school in the heart of the city.

St. Johns, Hofstra… good backup schools on the island.


I hope this helps someone…

~ Tenore

Last edited by Tenore on Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:02 am, edited 1 time in total.


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